No on Prop 8, Discussion Continues.

I am not in support of gay marriage. I am in support of a idea of a man and a woman in marriage. Many of you sent me links, videos, and discussion points. I read and watched them all, and for the most part I am in agreement with you. This fight isnt against theology or semantics, its about equality under the law.

I am not in support of any bill that undermines rights of Americans. Gay people are Americans too and deserve equal rights under the law. Because they believe differently than us is not grounds for stripping them of the freedoms we take part of. Thats the problem when people start mixing politics and religion. People has made this a Gay vs Christian problem, when in my eyes it has nothing to do with either. Dont get me wrong, I believe the same as all the Christians out there, marriage is between a man and a woman. I do not condone any part of the gay lifestyle. I am however a big believer in what a constitution does stand for, rights of every american citizen.

I personally believe homosexuality to be a sin, creating a law based on morality will not stop the sin. It wont stop America's children from learning about it. Its the PARENTS job to teach our kids our morals and hope they choose to follow the same. People already complain about too much Government in their lives.

Even if Prop 8 passes, it faces the same outcome as Prop 22, its a bad law, its against the constitution, and it will get overturned.

If my best friend told me tomorrow that he was gay, I would have two options.

1. Call him a SINNER, dismiss him as a friend, I dont agree with his decisions therefore I think less of him and that he is scum and profane and not worthy of coexistance.
2. Continue to love him as Jesus would, try and discuss and try to convince him of what I believe to be a huge sin and how thats not the way I belive Jesus intended to be.
   

Which option would Jesus choose? If the vote was tomorrow, I in good conscience would vote NO on a bill that amend the constitution to eliminate equal standing among Americans, whom the government is sworn to protect and why we have soldiers fighting for overseas.

Try and remember that this is a State law. The State of California is not interested in whether someone loves another, to a state government, its about property. The government doesnt base its opinions on faith or religion but on law. If you dont want your kids learning about Gay people, send them to a Christian school, where their cirriculum is based on faith instead of law. How about lobby your School District's Board to not include specific materials.

Part 1 on my post was a dig on the scare tactics the Yes on 8 team used. I proved several of them wrong and noone has debated me on that. I just wanted people to be aware of dirty politics that lie to you. Take this statement for example from the Yes on 8 site:

It restores the definition of marriage to what the vast majority of California voters already approved and what Californians agree should be supported, not undermined. It overturns the outrageous decision of four activist Supreme Court judges who ignored the will of the people.

To show you how funny the argument is, vast majority = 61%, 4 or 7 Supreme Court judges = 57%, compare apples to apples people! The same percentage of people who voted for the bill was the same percentage of judges who overturned the bill.

Yesterday someone anonymously commented on Part 1 of my No on Prop 8 discussions and I couldn't say it better myself

Here's a simple scenario. Let's step out of yourselves (in many cases your "identity") for a second and say Christianity WASN'T the majority religion of America.

Let's say the popular religion of the U.S. considered Christianity devious and wrong. Why? Simply because their belief system said so. No real facts or reasons to back it up, other than this religion's book said Christians are bad. So they decided to pass a law banning marriage between anyone of their religion and Christians. Or make the hiring of Christians illegal.

Wouldn't you consider that to be discrimination?

Just because your belief system says one thing, doesn't mean that it's correct. Remember when there were laws that women and blacks couldn't vote? Many people justified it because the bible considered women and slaves lesser people than men.

My whole argument is equal rights under the law, regardless of my personal beliefs.

You all can argue how marriage should be between a man and a woman until your blue in the face, the only way you can convince me differently is to convince me that gay people dont deserve equal rights under the law, like women and blacks in early America, and good luck trying to convince me of that.

My hope is that people will look past the surface and see the real meat of this Prop, America means freedom from all, regardless of religious beliefs, it is what we were founded on.